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Re: OCIO v2 beta1 tag

Larry Gritz
 

Woo-hoo, congratulations to the whole team! 


On Nov 24, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Doug Walker <doug.walker@...> wrote:

Hi all,

As you hopefully heard at the SIGGRAPH and ASWF BoFs, development of OpenColorIO is currently in a stabilization and testing phase in preparation for the official release of v2 around the end of the year.

We received some feedback (Issue #1196) that it would be helpful to use tags and version identifiers to mark way-points along the path to the official release.  We have started doing that and today's master branch is now 'v2.0.0-beta1'. 

We kindly ask for your participation in testing the master branch to help us make a robust and stable v2 release. 

Also, if you have not seen it yet, please check out the updated documentation available from opencolorio.org and give us your feedback.

many thanks,

Doug Walker



Re: Shot luts and different monitor calibrations

Simon Björk
 

Thanks Blake and Kevin for the explanations, really appreciated.

The whole thing with having multiple displays seems really nice and seems to work well in Nuke at least.

I guess one problem might be that User A (sRGB monitor) saves his Nuke script and when it's opened by User B (Rec709 monitor) the sRGB view is missing and Nuke
will give an annoying error. I see that the old spi configs use the same name for views across displays which would help with this, but it might also be confusing for the user.
Maybe there's a way to check for color spaces via a Nuke callback before the error is thrown.

Still, wouldn't it be nice to be able to set colorspace with an environment variable? That way I wouldn't need to have register multiple views/displays for a situation like this.
- !<View> {name: Grade, colorspace: ${DEFAULT_VIEW}, looks: PreGrade_LUT | nolook}

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Den ons 25 nov. 2020 kl 19:12 skrev Kevin Wheatley <kevin.j.wheatley@...>:

Why the ACES and Nuke configs only have a single display, mostly for
legacy reasons. There were tools which didn't work well with the
situation of having different lists of views for different displays,
so the ACES config structured all the views under a single display,
Ideally tools would be able to handle this case better.

e.g. if you have:

Display 1 with views A, B and C
Display 2 with views A, C, D

When the user selects Display 1 with View B all good, but selecting
Display 1 from a drop down which choice should be shown for the view,
etc.

the ACES config basically combined them to say

Display ACES, with views 1A, 1B, 1C, 2A, 2C, 2D

It is more in keeping with how OCIO is intended to be used, to use
multiple displays to represent different display devices.

Kevin






Re: Shot luts and different monitor calibrations

Kevin Wheatley
 

Why the ACES and Nuke configs only have a single display, mostly for
legacy reasons. There were tools which didn't work well with the
situation of having different lists of views for different displays,
so the ACES config structured all the views under a single display,
Ideally tools would be able to handle this case better.

e.g. if you have:

Display 1 with views A, B and C
Display 2 with views A, C, D

When the user selects Display 1 with View B all good, but selecting
Display 1 from a drop down which choice should be shown for the view,
etc.

the ACES config basically combined them to say

Display ACES, with views 1A, 1B, 1C, 2A, 2C, 2D

It is more in keeping with how OCIO is intended to be used, to use
multiple displays to represent different display devices.

Kevin


Re: Shot luts and different monitor calibrations

Sloan, Blake
 

Hello Simon,

 

Displays don’t appear to be doing much work in the nuke-default and ACES configs. The spi-anim config has an example of how Display can be used to partition ones Views by the type of display (projector, sRGB monitor).

 

Getting back to your question about Looks, I’ve never tried to set the colorspace using an environment variable.

 

Creating Views for each display calibration using the Display key might be the best approach:

displays:

       Monitor:

- !<View> {name: Grade, colorspace: Output - sRGB, looks: PreGrade_LUT | nolook}

       Projector:

- !<View> {name: Grade, colorspace: Output - P3D65, looks: PreGrade_LUT | nolook}

 

Hope I have not steered you too far off-course.

 

-blake

 

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Subject: Re: [ocio-dev] Shot luts and different monitor calibrations

 

Or is the recommended way to use Displays for this and then filter out the list based on the ACTIVE_DISPLAYS environment variable?

 

Related to that, why does the ACES config only have a single display called ACES?

 

Thanks!

 

/Simon


 

 

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Den ons 25 nov. 2020 kl 13:40 skrev Simon Björk via lists.aswf.io <bjork.simon=gmail.com@...>:


I'm trying to build a config that has a shot lut applied as a look. It all works well with:

 - !<View> {name: Grade, colorspace: Output - sRGB, looks: PreGrade_LUT | nolook}

However, I need this to support different monitors calibrations, not just sRGB. Do I need to create different views for each display?

- !<View> {name: Grade - rec.709, colorspace: Output - Rec.709, looks: PreGrade_LUT | nolook}

I thought I could use environment variables to change this dynamically, but it doesn't seem to work:

- !<View> {name: Grade, colorspace: ${DEFAULT_VIEW}, looks: PreGrade_LUT | nolook}

Any suggestions?

 

 

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Re: Shot luts and different monitor calibrations

Simon Björk
 

Or is the recommended way to use Displays for this and then filter out the list based on the ACTIVE_DISPLAYS environment variable?

Related to that, why does the ACES config only have a single display called ACES?

Thanks!

/Simon



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Den ons 25 nov. 2020 kl 13:40 skrev Simon Björk via lists.aswf.io <bjork.simon=gmail.com@...>:


I'm trying to build a config that has a shot lut applied as a look. It all works well with:
 - !<View> {name: Grade, colorspace: Output - sRGB, looks: PreGrade_LUT | nolook}
However, I need this to support different monitors calibrations, not just sRGB. Do I need to create different views for each display?
- !<View> {name: Grade - rec.709, colorspace: Output - Rec.709, looks: PreGrade_LUT | nolook}
I thought I could use environment variables to change this dynamically, but it doesn't seem to work:
- !<View> {name: Grade, colorspace: ${DEFAULT_VIEW}, looks: PreGrade_LUT | nolook}
Any suggestions?


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Shot luts and different monitor calibrations

Simon Björk
 


I'm trying to build a config that has a shot lut applied as a look. It all works well with:
 - !<View> {name: Grade, colorspace: Output - sRGB, looks: PreGrade_LUT | nolook}
However, I need this to support different monitors calibrations, not just sRGB. Do I need to create different views for each display?
- !<View> {name: Grade - rec.709, colorspace: Output - Rec.709, looks: PreGrade_LUT | nolook}
I thought I could use environment variables to change this dynamically, but it doesn't seem to work:
- !<View> {name: Grade, colorspace: ${DEFAULT_VIEW}, looks: PreGrade_LUT | nolook}
Any suggestions?


-------------------------------
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OCIO v2 beta1 tag

Doug Walker
 

Hi all,

As you hopefully heard at the SIGGRAPH and ASWF BoFs, development of OpenColorIO is currently in a stabilization and testing phase in preparation for the official release of v2 around the end of the year.

We received some feedback (Issue #1196) that it would be helpful to use tags and version identifiers to mark way-points along the path to the official release.  We have started doing that and today's master branch is now 'v2.0.0-beta1'. 

We kindly ask for your participation in testing the master branch to help us make a robust and stable v2 release. 

Also, if you have not seen it yet, please check out the updated documentation available from opencolorio.org and give us your feedback.

many thanks,

Doug Walker


search_path on Windows

Simon Björk
 

From what I understand the separator for search_path in a config file is a colon. This causes a bit of problem on Windows where I have luts in for example D:/path/to/luts.

I could work around it with environment variables instead, but is there a way to "capsulate" the string so that the colon isn't evaluated?

/Simon



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OpenColorIO-Config-ACES Working Group

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Re: OCIO v2 sample configs

Brendan Bolles
 

OK, issue filed, and responded to. Thanks!

Please let us know when there's a v2 ACES config available for download so we can test! Hopefully it also uses other v2 features, like categories.


Re: OCIO v2 sample configs

Patrick Hodoul <patrick.hodoul@...>
 

Also, I'm getting errors in v2 when I try the use the spi-anim and spi-vfx configs. Is that expected?
As @Micheal mentioned, we put lot of effort to be backward compatible with v1 so anything you find which is not working as expected, could be a github issue for further investigations.  The stabilization period is here to investigate new features but also to have a global status of the library.


Re: OCIO v2 sample configs

Michael Dolan
 

And to clarify, OCIO v2 has NOT been released yet. The project is feature complete, but there will likely be multiple rounds of release candidates before an official 2.0.0 release is made. OCIO v2 is currently in a four month stabilization period. For those that maintain applications which use OCIO, you are encouraged to test the current dev build and provide feedback and/or report issues.

As Thomas mentioned, the intent is to have an ACES reference config on or near the OCIO v2 release, and to build upon that to make a larger config more similar to the existing OCIO v1 ACES config. Note that by "reference" config I mean a reference implementation of ACES, not including the many other pieces needed for a complete studio pipeline. If anyone on this list has interest in helping with this effort, we are meeting every-other week to discuss. See the "[ocio-dev] OpenColorIO-Config-ACES Working Group" calendar listing on this page: https://www.aswf.io/meeting-calendar/

I have not tried the spi-anim and spi-vfx configs with the v2 code yet, but it is intended to be backwards compatible with v1 configs, so feel free to provide those errors via a GH issue and we will investigate.

Thanks for testing! It is very much appreciated.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 8:58 PM Thomas Mansencal <thomas.mansencal@...> wrote:
Hi Brendan,

Not much to see yet but there is some effort going in that direction here: https://github.com/AcademySoftwareFoundation/OpenColorIO-Config-ACES

Cheers,



On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 at 14:55, Brendan Bolles <brendan@...> wrote:
Was it mentioned on this list that v2 has been released?? Seems like kind of a big deal!

Are there any v2 configs to experiment with? In particular it seems there should be an ACES config, seeing as ACES support is one of the big features in v2.

Also, I'm getting errors in v2 when I try the use the spi-anim and spi-vfx configs. Is that expected?


Re: OCIO v2 sample configs

Thomas Mansencal
 

Hi Brendan,

Not much to see yet but there is some effort going in that direction here: https://github.com/AcademySoftwareFoundation/OpenColorIO-Config-ACES

Cheers,



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Was it mentioned on this list that v2 has been released?? Seems like kind of a big deal!

Are there any v2 configs to experiment with? In particular it seems there should be an ACES config, seeing as ACES support is one of the big features in v2.

Also, I'm getting errors in v2 when I try the use the spi-anim and spi-vfx configs. Is that expected?


OCIO v2 sample configs

Brendan Bolles
 

Was it mentioned on this list that v2 has been released?? Seems like kind of a big deal!

Are there any v2 configs to experiment with? In particular it seems there should be an ACES config, seeing as ACES support is one of the big features in v2.

Also, I'm getting errors in v2 when I try the use the spi-anim and spi-vfx configs. Is that expected?


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Re: Slack Access

Simran Spiller
 

Hi Mitch,

I suppose you saw the following on GitHub?

Please request access on the ocio-dev list with the email address you would like to be invited on.

This information is actually outdated. You can sign up yourself here:

Best
Simran

Am Fr., 30. Okt. 2020 um 18:37 Uhr schrieb Mitch Prater <mprater@...>:
Hi All,

I'd like access to the OCIO Slack channel please: mprater@...

Thanks, mitch